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Georgina Agnes Brackenbury, Emmeline Pankhurst, oil on canvas
You're welcome! -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Red Salvia and Celosia in the flower garden of the Tumuli Park at sunset in Gyeongju South Korea

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Greensburg, KS, USA. May 16, 2007. The center of town twelve days after it was hit by an F5 tornado with 200 mph (approx 321 km/h) winds

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North Island saddleback (Philesturnus rufusater)
 Comment Yes. Its not 1st time you put almost in the middle. Negative space should be in relation with subject. --Mile (talk) 08:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done. Thanks; I've adopted your suggestion Mile. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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African bush elephant (Loxodonta africana), Amboseli National Park, Kenya
  • Ok, fair, thank you for your feedback. I made some changes, please, have a look. To your question, please, don't upload versions on your own, that makes no sense. I have the RAW file as source and if somebody requests a change later one I wouldn't have the right version, so it makes sense that I do those changes. Furthermore I consider myself skilled enough to make a tilt or change the WB. I believe that uploading an own version is appropiate if the author requests for help of if the uploader is not active on Commons. Poco a poco (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't necessarily mean uploading the version to replace your version, but to upload a reference version to better illustrate what I mean. Tupungato (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cloister of former St. Catherine's Monastery in Tallinn

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Svirzh castle, Ukraine

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Thomson's gazelle (Eudorcas thomsonii), Amboseli National Park, Kenya
  • Well, you may be disappointed. I know the theory but I have to say that at the end of the day I played around with the crop and chose this one because it dwas the most pleasant to me. It doesn't fullfil the rule of 2/3 or the diagonal method, though. Poco a poco (talk) 19:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stained glass with St. Andrew in Pazzi Chapel. Designed by Alesso Baldovinetti. Basilica Santa Croce in Florence, Italy
  • To be clear, I wouldn't vote for any of the stained glass images in the 'traditional style' either. I did vote for one a bit like this in 2019 but I was very new to Commons then and didn't know much about this type of photography. I would oppose that image now. Cmao20 (talk) 03:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That’s clear, it’s a very reasonable point of view and in no way I wanted to criticize you. I just wanted to consider the photo from my own (a bit different) point of view, also in order to offer other voters some more aspects from which they can choose when making their own judgment. I always think that some diversity of the evaluations is helpful to ensure a well-balanced discussion and assessment. – Aristeas (talk) 11:52, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Close wing Basking of Pareronia hippia (Fabricius, 1787) - Indian Wanderer Female (Right) & Male(Left).

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White-tailed eagle at the Bavarian Hunting Falconry Center in Tambach

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Sacred Heart chapel in Zakopane Jaszczurówka
  • Yes, I hear you. I guess it's more a matter of taste and what the image is being used for. In my opinion, for a piece of art to be hung on the wall, it would be wonderful. But in an encyclopedic context, the heavy-handed processing is just to much. At least for me. Given the artistic merit, I'd be perfectly ok with it being promoted.--Frank Schulenburg (talk) 16:37, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Frank Schulenburg: it has very little post-processing, I only used tonal curves to change the contrast. Everything looks just like it was when I took the picture. Jakub T. Jankiewicz (talk) 13:18, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Two wood knots which resemble two eyes, wooden fence at the north side of Lembergerstrasse no. 13, Beilstein, Württemberg

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Courtyard and workers’ houses below high factory chimneys in Nikiszowiec, Katowice, Poland
  • ✓ Improved file uploaded Thank you for the constructive feedback, Basile. The bluish hue of the right chimney has been removed. You are right about the different shades of red, I already noticed this during the development. On site, they actually look like this, I suspect the red paint on the right chimney is either older than the left one, or was a different quality of paint that allows the azo dyes to fade faster due to ultraviolet radiation. Here are a few examples from the same month this year, where you can see that they are just as different as in my photo: 01, 02, 03, 04 and 05. If you compare these with a photo from 10 years ago, the suspected UV light bleaching seems reasonable. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 10:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Thanks to both of you! This is a very interesting hint, Basile. I wanted to answer that the difference seems to be mostly real, as other photos show, but Radomianin has already explained this and also improved the image – great! Best, – Aristeas (talk) 10:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you very much, Radomianin, for the clarification and useful links that confirm your words. Thanks also to Aristeas for the comment. Interesting feature of the real world! Not enough wow for me, but if a majority of supporters want this image FP, I'm fine (neutral) with a promotion -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Milky Way
  •  Comment It is certainly a lot better, but I don't know how much of the colours here are trustworthy. It's hard to know how far the original manipulations went and thus how far they should be reversed. Cmao20 (talk) 22:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks to Cmao20 and Giles for your evaluations. It is difficult to adjust saturation and level values based on guesswork when the original file is not available. But I didn't want to leave it untried. I created a second version in which I reduced the brightness, contrast and saturation values significantly: SwissTransfer link 2/2. There are still a few days left until the end of the nomination period and I'm still hoping that the author will respond with his personal feedback. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The green and red colors in the sky still come out of nowhere and don't exist in reality. There's also many blue weird zones in the black zones that look like it was painted (I think they are remains of the painting brush used to darken the sky). The whites also seem a bit too illuminated. And also the black part of the sky is underexposed in my opinion (but underexposed because of the way it was edited by painting it darker and not by the way of taking the photo). I think the image has to be reworked from raw because the way it was edited to make everything else than the milky way much darker probably caused details to be lost there -- Giles Laurent (talk) 21:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Entrance lobby of Amantaka luxury Resort & Hotel at blue hour in Luang Prabang Laos

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Close wing Nectering of Belenois aurota (Fabricius, 1793) - Pioneer.

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Half-timbered house from Soufflenheim-Siegfried (Building No. 54), Écomusée d’Alsace

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Kitchen gadgets at hand

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"Wait for me daddy":British Columbia Regiment, DCO, marching in New Westminster, 1940
Photographically the focus is wrong (and the crop tight at the left), it's a shame, but this image has its own story (and yes, also own article on en-wiki). It has become an iconic photograph. We should take this into account.
Finally, a reminder about the voting process. COM:FPC: The meaning of the image should be judged according to the cultural context of the image, not by the cultural context of the observer. An image "speaks" to people, and it has the capacity to evoke emotion such as tenderness, rage, rejection, happiness, sadness, etc. Good photographs are not limited to evoking pleasant sensations... -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Western cattle egret in the Camargue

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Chief Raoni Metuktire of the Kayapó people with an indigenous leader from other countries in Abya Ayalam (during the National Movement of Indigenous Peoples that takes place in the capital of Brazil).
  •  SupportIwaqarhashmi (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support Very expressive, strong image. I wonder a bit about the noticeable noise. I would not mind it at all if this was a photo taken under difficult circumstances at high ISO speed, but acc. to the Exif data this photo was taken at ISO speed rating 180 with a Nikon D3200, therefore I would expect a very low level of noise. Strange.Aristeas (talk) 20:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I agree with Aristeas, in my opinion it looks like the noise has been artificially added. Sometimes photographers do this to either simulate "analog grain" or to mask blur/shake. I took the liberty of creating a denoised version: SwissTransfer link If you and the community are fine with the result, please feel free to use the file for an update. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 22:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Man and woman, I think. How do you guess these intentions by the author? I don't find them on the file page. These elements may be important. In the background but perhaps also on the subjects, with painting brushes. Without RAW we have no idea about how looks like the initial work -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for pointing that out. You're certainly right, it's probably definitely a man. I just suspected, as I did, that the author wanted to black out something he thought was unimportant. But without a raw file, I can only guess, not know. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 07:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Understood. Thanks. In this case, I also regret that the resolution is only 3,016 × 2,121 pixels, about four times smaller than what the sensor of this camera is capable of. Probably downsized image, then, which is against COM:I -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks again to Basile, I hadn't checked the link at first. Sorry, of course Raoni Metuktire is a man. Too bad we couldn't rescue the nomination, because the motif is really impressive. -- Radomianin (talk) 12:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Star trails over Newgrange Ireland

* Support --Ermell (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Also this one by "AstroAnthony" is clearly a fake. There might be many other manipulations by this uploader (I don't want to waste hours examining each with a magnifying glass). It is not worth risking another time-consuming delisting process after potential POTY qualification like the previous case. -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure, if the author could provide the RAWs I would be happy to reconsider, but I think it's fair to assume that images by this user may be photomontages, particularly if they look 'too good to be true', and to vote accordingly. Cmao20 (talk) 02:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your rainbow panorama installation by Ólafur Eliasson at the ARoS Aarhus Art Museum, Denmark.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: per COM:FPC and COM:I: "Images should have at least 2 real megapixels of information"-- Basile Morin (talk) 22:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
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 Info Hacker news thread on the pics --David Osipov (talk) 08:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyzylkup table mountain. Kyzylsai regional park, Mangystau District, Mangystau Region, Kazakhstan

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Aerial view of the Vexier Chapel in Reifenberg

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Greater flamingos male and female in the Camargue during mating season

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Egyptian goose (Alopochen aegyptiaca) and goslings
  • Thanks for your update and sorry for my confusion. It's the idea of ​​"juvenile" that I wanted to introduce and I was also thinking that you would easily find the relevant subcategory. But it's a different branch and you're more than expert :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Transfiguration Cathedral in Odesa. On July 23, 2023, the cathedral was severely damaged by a Russian missile attack

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Man dressed as the pagan god Veles at the traditional Rękawka festival in Kraków

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Hell Gate walking path

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Abandoned Ford van by Gerritsen Creek, Brooklyn

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Carved wooden door with a copper ring handle at Olimkhon palace. Bukhara, Uzbekistan.
  • Yes, and sharpness could be better too. I'm honestly not sure about this one. I made this downsample which is 8.5 megapixels and better but still corner sharpness isn't great. But the motif is really cool so unsure how to vote, will think about this one. Cmao20 (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Newport Beach Pier
or Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:The Vela supernova remnant imaged by the VLT Survey Telescope (eso2214a).tiff -- Basile Morin (talk) 09:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The colours are really nice and vibrant. However, I'm not sure whether 3:2 is the best aspect ratio here; there is a lot of negative space with lines (boat trails) leading away from the main subject, quite distracting IMO. Would like to see a different crop and reconsider. BigDom (talk) 06:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The colours are in my opinion a little too vibrant. It looks to me like there is some clipping in the red channel. Nice composition, though agree a tighter crop may improve Cmao20 (talk) 19:14, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination I did a crop and reduced the vibrance a bit, will upload the JPG version and relist now. Thank you for the comments, everyone.--Don (talk) 20:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Here < is also a "winning work" (first prize) that would be straight rejected at FPC per COM:I.
  • "Chromatic problems also come from our standard lenses and are usually easily fixable in post-treatment. I made a try on Lightroom with this picture and got spectacular improvement. The result is of course available on request.
  • These stacking issues are fixable in my opinion (like were the others similarly supposed to be "impossible"). The goal is to promote the best images, here, not all the interesting photos. It may take some time of extra work, only.
  • Possible also to start with COM:QIC (easier) before FPC.
  • Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Milky way over the Hochkalter Massif and Lake Hintersee in Ramsau bei Berchtesgaden, Bavaria, Germany
No, it's supposed to be natural :-) And please, assume good faith, it's your work. You should know (better than us) what you've done in the sky -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You brought it up, so I'm interested in what you consider being "artificial" in the sky. Is it about emphasising the structure of the Milky Way (high/low or white/black)? I don't understand, assuming good faith, what you're getting at. A. Öztas (talk) 04:37, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. "Emphasising the structure". "High / low, white / black" -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will you also explain why you quote it like that or do you want me to guess? A. Öztas (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You guessed well and put words (your own words) on the issue mentioned above -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't think a painting brush was used, the milky way has brighter borders on each side that can naturally be captured by long exposure photos -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Giles Laurent: , thanks for your comment. Please take a look at the 3 versions in the history. Resize them at the same size, and superimpose them, each separately. Then you realize very clearly that yes, a painting brush was used. Moreover, it's very possible also that the initial upload was already more or less heavily edited. In this version, the center of the sky is too dark, and certainly not faithful -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't know exactly what you mean by painting brush - it's the first time I've heard the term in this context - but if you mean masking, I've already commented on this with regard to the white and black levels. I'm just surprised at the astonishment, as this is a common process in image processing. Or are we talking at cross purposes? A. Öztas (talk) 13:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Painting brush" is the official name on many software editors, isn't it? Usually an icon with a "painting brush" 🖌. Now there's a 4th version uploaded. Not yet observed. But If you darken selectively some areas here and there, while the sky is supposed to be a giant uniform surface, it makes it fake -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for clarifying, what you mean. By your reasoning, wouldn't most photos then qualify as "fake", not only on FP? We can discuss this matter on my talk page, if you want. This would not only apply to (even slight) HDR images but also to those where, for example, a building is subtly emphasized. If you set the threshold for "fake" at any adjustment that doesn’t globally affect the entire image, then so be it — at least that's a clear position. As for the term "painting brush", as I mentioned earlier, I wasn't familiar with it in this context. In the software I use, this tool is called "draw mask". Either way, I hope we’ve now discussed this topic thoroughly. --A. Öztas (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion continues below and I'm also interested in talking with other participants, having different points of view -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just checked the picture on my computer (I was previously on my phone) and it seems you were right that a painting brush was used.
However I don't think the result is very different at first sight from adjusting curves/exposure adjustments, which is something a lot of people do and the result doesn't look unatural to me (especially if you compare it to something really unnatural like this). But perhaps the center of the milky way was darkened too much (it's not supposed to be that much darker) and perhaps the brighter part shouldn't have been brightened with a paiting brush but with a global exposure/contrast adjustment because looking at thumbnail we see the brushstrokes and comparing it to the previous version, the brighter parts changed shape and were extended, which in the end changed a bit the shape of the milky way and is something that shouldn't happen.
Also, there's one other new thing I've noted now, there's a strange change change of exposure in this zone that might be improved -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed, both. --A. Öztas (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Abstain Painting brush removed. @Giles Laurent: there's a noticeable difference between the second-third-fourth and the fifth version, and in the previous ones, there was no reason to darken artificially some zones in the sky so as to create strong and unnatural contrasts. Thanks for pointing this out, and for confirming the manipulation was not only my subjective impression. The sky is supposed to be flat. So the normal processing in this case is not local touches but should be global, yes -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aegithalos caudatus (with feathers to pad the nest)
  • Follow-up  Comment Jerzy, this is really a lovely and wonderful photo, I (and other users) would really like to become it a Featured picture. We just think that the post-processing is not up to what your photo deserves. Modern tools allow to reduce the image noise greatly without sacrificing details (as old-styled noise removal did), therefore the new tools have rapidly become standard especially with wildlife photos. Just contact Poco a poco or e.g. Radomianin or me if you would appreciate a little help with this. Best, – Aristeas (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to Aristeas for his engagement. The photo is too beautiful to let this nomination die. SwissTransfer link provided: This version is similar to Poco's (thanks for the edit), but in mine the colors are closer to the photographer's original. However, the degree of denoising and sharpness is similar to Poco's version. If you and the community find the edit acceptable, feel free to use it for an update. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Will support Poco's version, but not this one. Cmao20 (talk) 03:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Jerzy Strzelecki Dear P .T. correctors of other people's photos: I must congratulate you on your effectiveness in warding off potential (+) voters. However, the next time an irresistible urge to correct you strikes, try to wait until the voting is over. I have over 8,000 images in Wikimedia, including some that have been used in dozens of Wikipedias. It's a shame that you chose to paste just the one I wanted to highlight - the friendly, slightly funny “Mustache”. And best leave the author's versions alone even if, in your opinion, they necessarily need improvement. This was supposed to be a bigger project [1]. However, a magpie or jay destroyed the nest with the young. The same thing with the vote on this photo was done by the enhancers. Jerzystrzelecki (talk) 13:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Hello Jerzy, I’m sorry but there seems to be a big misunderstanding. No offence, but your harsh comment deserves an open answer.
Please take a look at other nominations to understand better how this “Featured picture candidates” (FPC) page works. We do not first vote on a photo and discuss it later, as you seem to assume. We always discuss photos, often into details, and FPC regulars are used to propose improvements when they think a photo could be amended. This applies also and especially to wildlife photographs, and hints and suggestions about improving the post-processing are very common. This is neither derogatory nor impolite, on the contrary: when FPC voters suggest specific improvements, they (i.) confirm that your photo has potential and (ii.) want to help you to realize this potential better. This is actually a service for you. You have received a lot of praise for the photo and only completely constructive comments, two people have even edited the photo for you to help you – frankly, you should consider yourself lucky that you are being offered so much recognition and support.
You might wonder why people are so particular about the noise/sharpness level. That’s not arbitrary: we discuss this often, especially when it comes to wildlife photos, but often forget to explain this to newcomers. Wikimedia projects need especially sharp and noise-free photos for a special reason: our photos, and a fortiori Commons FPs, are not only viewed as a whole, but must also stand up to being cropped and have details extracted from them for articles, Wikibooks, etc. As the FPC rules emphasize, “the goal of the Wikimedia Commons project is to provide a central repository for free images to be used by all Wikimedia projects, including possible future projects.” Therefore we want that images can be used in as many ways as possible, including significant enlargement.
If you have still doubts, ask other people who often nominate photos of animals (e.g. User:Charlesjsharp, User:Giles Laurent, User:Iifar, User:Poco a poco, User:Rhododendrites and many more): they will tell you that their photos are scrutinised and discussed just as closely, often even more closely, and usually without anyone offering to help them improve them. That was a particularly nice offer from our fellows to you.
Wikimedia Commons is not meant to be a site where people just brag about their photos and praise each other (like Flickr), but one where we work together, and there’s no better way to do that than by discussing how to improve images further. Getting on your high horse and insulting other users by comparing them to envious magpies or jays doesn’t help the poor little bird (for whom I have every sympathy), your beautiful photo, you or the project. – Aristeas (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely per Aristeas. Jerzystrzelecki, I had rather expected a "thank you" to those people you ironically call "enhancers" for dedicating their time to process and upload new versions (yes, improved ones) of your image. Your feedback is instead rude. If you cannot accept criticism to your work, you shouldn't nominate your photos to FP. Here we expect the highest quality and the wow effect. It is a bunch more than likes. Poco a poco (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[responding to ping] Yes, as Aristeas says this isn't just a vote but a forum where people provide feedback and, at times, even improve each other's images. You are not obliged to accept this help, of course, but it is part of what, in my opinion, makes this a constructive forum. That said, there are particularities among the community here, because of its origin in an encyclopedia, that can be jarring for people used to sharing photos elsewhere -- horizontals/verticals, noise, chromatic aberration, filters/saturation, unconventional crops, unconventional composition, etc. can all result in a failed nomination. There are exceptions, of course, but they're rare. Here, Poco a poco offered to make this adjustment for you. It sounds like that gesture wasn't desired. As a result, this nomination may fail. I've been in such a situation, too, where folks have suggested a crop or edit that I fundamentally disagreed with, and thus my nomination failed. It's frustrating, but that's the way it works. Just know that, for many people, they want to help you to get an image promoted rather than oppose and say nothing. You have to decide if you want that help, but remember it comes from a good place. — Rhododendrites talk17:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to User:Poco a poco and Rhododendrites for your statements! @Jerzy, to avoid any misunderstandings: It’s always OK if you say “No, sorry, thank you!” to suggestions or requests to edit a photo. It’s your photo, of course. But it’s not OK to swear at people who add constructive comments. And it’s especially rude to do this when people like Poco a poco and Radomianin even do all the work for you and offer improved versions of a photo. You could at least say “Oh, how nice, that’s great … but I prefer my version and don’t want to change it, sorry.” And it would be even better if you would explain why you prefer your version. (But must we really explain this? Yes, it seems to be necessary.) – Aristeas (talk) 17:44, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Анастасия Львоваru/en 20:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The various contributions above are very helpful and do explain how FPC works. They might even be combined/edited and put on the guidelines page. Poco's edit is a great improvement and more might be possible with the RAW file. Unfortunately, Poco's edit falls short of FP due to lack of definition. I've never used a 400mm zoom lens with a 2X teleconverter, but one reads that they are really designed for prime lenses. I've tested 1.6x teleconverters on my Canon 400mm and 500mm zoom lenses and stopped as they offered no benefit. Charlesjsharp (talk) 17:34, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • FWIW more than half of my FPs were taken with a zoom lens with a 2x teleconverter on a camera that's about 1/4 the price of Jerzy's. Granted, I'm working with a 40-150mm lens, not 400mm, but on a crop sensor that's equivalent to 80-300 full frame. Still, if a lens is good enough it can still perform pretty well. The big issue, in my experience, is when the light conditions are bad. I suspect if this scene were brighter, for example, we wouldn't see a big issue here. — Rhododendrites talk17:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Thank you for your constructive comments and feedback. I apologize for my, admittedly not very elegant, statement. This photo was meant to make the viewer smile, and through my out-of-character comments it caused a storm. I am an old-school man, the oldest photos of mine that I have inserted into Wikimedia were taken in the late 1950s. And I understand the World a little differently. In my world, grain or noise did not determine the quality of a photo. Once again, I apologize to everyone. Jerzystrzelecki (talk) 18:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Summary. There is a saying in my country: Better is the enemy of good. This example shows it exactly. Apparently, there are no votes (-) but no one will now add a vote (+). Jerzystrzelecki (talk) 09:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Neutral Nice scene but I agree that it needs denoising. I would happily support a denoised version. There's scenarios where denoising is to be avoided because that would result in loss of details like in some night photography scenarios but in this daylight scenario denoising the image enhances it in my opinion -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:36, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Woman with hat in red dress, North Beach SF
  •  Support Many thanks for the appreciation, Екатерина Борисова. The picture was a real snapshot, we were first in a record store and then, as I recall, in a store next door, which we left with the friendly woman in red. During our walk through SF, my camera was always ready for spontaneous snapshots. -- Radomianin (talk) 06:30, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Busy background, nothing special. Yann (talk) 08:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Yann --Uoaei1 (talk) 08:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support When we want to show people walking on a city street the background will usually be busy; somehow the variety of the city must be included – if the background consists just of windows reflecting the sky or a wall we would not get the feeling that we are in the downtown. The vanishing lines of the row of cars on the left and of the buildings on the right, which converge above the centre of the picture, bring order to the composition; the woman seems to be walking towards this vanishing point, her placement slightly to the left adds tension to the composition. This placement, the bright colours of her clothing and the out-of-focus background make her stand out clearly from the background. For me, this is a good example of an intense, orderly and yet dynamic composition in the middle of the variety of a city centre. – Aristeas (talk) 16:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Yeah I think it's great. The colours, the outfit, the sense of movement, all superb. Good street photography. Cmao20 (talk) 18:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Thi (talk) 15:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per Yann. -- Karelj (talk) 14:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A Steller sea lions on a buoy near Sitka, Alaska
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Ursus maritimus, Hornsund, Svalbard
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View over The Lake (Central Park, New York City) to Building San Remo in autum 2024

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Albert Einstein sticks his tongue out for photographer Arthur Sasse after his 72nd birthday party on March 14, 1951

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Unpublished variation of J.C. Leyendecker's famous Saturday Evening Post New Year's Baby, intended for use in 1943.

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Family : Fulgoridae (Planthoppers, Lanternflies)

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Basilica of the Sacred Heart, Paris, France
 Comment I think I exaggerate a bit, but the NR washes some areas. But it's not very revelant, even at full size. I just prefere the first version. --Sebring12Hrs (talk) 16:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Odobenus rosmarus, Prins Karls Forland, Svalbard

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The arctic fox, Ny-Ålesund, Svalbard
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: low quality. Please visit COM:QIC before nominating here. -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:31, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

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SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launch
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  • I wonder why Bill Ingalls (given that he is/was a professional photographer) did not pay more attention to details, both in the composition (which he could have checked calmly before the start) and in the post-processing (which is done later). We can accept the leaning verticals, but the cropped flowers at the bottom are unsatisfying (either there should be more of them in the frame or they should have been cut off completely), the CAs are obvious and (given the low resolution) quite prominent. And the whole image, which has been underexposed to preserve the highlights, should have been brightened in post-processing. Given the incredible expenditure necessary for space missions, one could expect a bit more care from the photographer, too. – Aristeas (talk) 10:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment I'm pretty sure this specific type of picture is taken remotely. The focal length is 16mm in full frame, it's unlikely a person would be allowed this close to a rocket launch. Chromatic aberration might have been corrected, I agree. I know what you mean about preservation of highlights and underexposure, but I think the key to this picture being "wow" are the dramatic steam clouds. To make them dramatic, you need the darker shadows within them. Even if you correct the levels to enhance the dark foreground with flowers, you might make the vapor cloud less dramatic and therefore the photo less "wow". Of course, it's possible to make a feathered selection of the grass/flowers area and correct it while preserving dramatic vapor, but I'm not sure it's allowed for journalistic type of photos from NASA. Tupungato (talk) 13:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment Of course I did not want to say that this is a bad photo; it has much “wow” and high educational value. I just stumbled over a certain disparity between the incredible expenditure and expense for such a space mission on the one hand and a certain lack of care for the details shown by the photographer on the other hand. – You are certainly right that this photo has been taken remotely; and I would also assume that the camera was set to continuous shooting (burst mode), so the photographer triggered remotely the start of the continuous series and this is just one photo selected from that series. That’s all fine. I just meant that whoever has placed the camera on the tripod (or whatever) before could have thought a little bit longer about the framing. You are also completely right that the underexposure is intentional and correct in order to get a good image of the dramatic steam clouds. I just think that whoever has processed the raw image file later could have spent a little bit more time to remove the CAs and to lift the exposure again, just to achieve a more realistic impression. It should not even be necessary to make a feathured selection of the dark parts; just increasing the exposure by e.g. 0.25 EV, reducing the highlights by 0.25 EV and increasing the brightness of the shadows by 0.5 EV or so would already improve the image without sacrificing the clouds or adulterating the realistic impression. No offence, I really appreciate your selection of this photo and (as said above) just stumbled about the details. – Aristeas (talk) 11:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yuna Kasai of Japan at FIS Nordic Combined Continental Cup Eisenerz 2020.
 Abstain Interesting. It's not an answer to my question, though, right? -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, forgot about that question. That's one of the many wind flags: a grey metal post and a red stripe of fabric. Granada (talk) 06:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Thanks. I wonder if the image wouldn't be more striking vertical. And the position of the skier would be more accurate. However I understand the difficulty here to follow the trajectory and to keep the subject within the frame at the same time. --Basile Morin (talk) 06:50, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the vote! By vertical do you mean like e.g. this one? To be honest I find these quite boring. They are the easiest to take by just pointing your camera upwards to the ski jumper coming from the take off. This one is not the sharpest as it was also taken at the same event and marks the beginning of a panning shot following the athlete. The moment the athlete comes past me (like in the FPC) she is around 90km/h fast and just 2-3m away. If I only want to asure that the photo is sharp I do it like that example and set the exposure time to 1/1000s or less (depending on weather conditions). Granada (talk) 12:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I wrongly assumed the photo was tilted, but realize now that it's probably not. The other shot, even if "easier" is also very good. For the speed, yes, it makes sense. Still the background would appear more static / frozen than here -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, therefore we are discussing here. The FPC-shot was made at the steepest part of the ski jumping hill, a few meters above the so called critical point of the hill. The post of that wind flag is mounted perpendicular to the slope of the hill and the image is completely horizontally. If you want to shoot from there you have to walk the stairs up. Granada (talk) 07:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats :-) Basile Morin (talk) 01:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Two holes and green leaves on the bark of a tree trunk in the forest in Luang Prabang Laos

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1961 Cooper T53 in a historic race at Donington Park in 2023.

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Spruce forest in fog at the Kehlstein in Berchtesgaden, Germany

 I withdraw my nomination I agree after reconsidering. A. Öztas (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Main courtyard of Bou Inania Madrasa, Fez, Marocco

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Caterpillar of the variegated banded owl (Noctua fimbriata) on a Muehlenbeckia

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+ The author created the image to be viewed as you see it. It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer, make changes in Photoshop, and then find errors. If you don't see errors right away, then there are none. You can ruin any image in Photoshop, but the author doesn't create the image so that someone can edit it in Photoshop. Janeklass (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  What?! "make changes in Photoshop, and then find errors"? I would be the last person to do that. And it's very clear from the file page that you are the sole and only uploader. You're of course free to do what you like with your pictures, but for me it's a similar case to this one or that one nominated last week. Sorry to be allowed to review here... When I read Ikan's review below ("I do see details well"), I had the impression it was a mirror of my comment (now crossed out) above ("Some details look interesting"). I got curious and then noticed the stacking issues. Please fix these errors like in this nomination. By the way, where do you find that "It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer"? -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:13, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You downloaded the image to your computer, increased the light in Photoshop, and then you saw the errors. The "errors" you pointed out do not disturb or affect the image. I am very sorry, but I think your assessment is unfair and is not given because they somehow affect the photo, but because you just want to scold. Janeklass (talk) 05:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You darkened the image, not me ("background made darker" in your summary). And you made this change without notifying a (weak) supporter writing "Definitely too dark for me", nor other participants who could also find the image (really) too dark now. Photoshop helps to find potential issues like wrong embedded color profiles (which can make the appearance vary from a computer to another, example here). This was done to help you. It was a tool. But the stacking issues (now located) also appear in the current version -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You raised the light and only then did you see errors that were otherwise not visible. For me, they do not affect the image and the problem does not exist. If you add light, you can see all sorts of things. As an author, the light is set the way I want it and it is not intended to be changed by anyone else. Janeklass (talk) 06:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. You darkened the picture (for everyone, not only for me). Proof in the history of the file page and in the summary you left. Given the critics (here and elsewhere by other participants), it would have been more judicious to brighten the picture instead of the contrary. Otherwise it's like you want to hide the mistakes. You also hide the whole content in this blackness.
  2. No, my first impression was : "Some details look interesting at the bottom". But because it was dark, it could be a wrong impression. Confirmation (I mean denial of "interesting details") comes now, yes. Same as here. I think light should be adjusted and FS problems resolved -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Your words " + After increasing the light on Photoshop, I also notice focus stacking errors. Image notes added". I'm referring to the fact that you didn't see the errors before you increased the light. So you amplified the errors yourself, which are otherwise not so visible and they don't affect the overall impression of the image. But okay, I added a little more light and I won't change this file any more Janeklass (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment If my eyes are good, there is no difference in the light between the first version and this one? And your words "It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer"... and worse: "the author doesn't create the image so that someone can edit it in Photoshop." Apologies, but this idea "If you don't see errors right away, then there are none" sounds a bit clumsy, according to the ton of similar nominations where errors / stitching problems are detected in the middle or even at the end of the voting period. A bunch of examples available in the archives. Currently the focus stacking errors are still present. Thus I don't change my vote -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editing an image to amplify small flaws that aren't actually visible is very strange behavior to me. Janeklass (talk) 09:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Very visible now, even in the darkness. And also at the top right.
  2. Could be fixed / uploaded by someone else (not necessarily you).
  3. Alternative could be proposed. At least for the FS issues. Then it's a democratic choice. Could be also delisted and replaced by a more accurate version later. If you change your mind, or if someone else improves your image.
  4. Like it or not, that's how it works, actually. And how divergent opinions offer chances to improve.
  5. It's a mistake to believe that the purpose of increasing the light was "to amplify flaws". Certainly anyone else would / will do the same as observer or re-user, because it's very dark, then trying to evaluate the content fairly and see it under more favorable conditions is useful and / or necessary. The FS flaws popped up at this moment, and were not expected. Most of the users here are happy to meet the opportunity to correct their own images -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am happy to correct mistakes when I see that the criticism is relevant. At this moment, I feel that the criticism has been overdone and criticized for the sake of criticizing. These "mistakes" are not visible in the picture and do not spoil the picture. Janeklass (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These mistakes have just been revealed a few hours ago. And first reaction, you darkened the image, which had the effect of making the situation worse, and lengthening the discussion for everyone. It would undoubtedly be wiser to fix the issues like here or there. See also this interesting case -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't darken the image because of your alleged "errors". I cropped the image and at the same time noticed lighter areas in the background and thought that the background would be better completely black. Janeklass (talk) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... noticed something, too? For the record, you said "If you don't see errors right away, then there are none.". You changed the crop? You changed the light? Twice, already? Yes, things happen / appear in the light of a discussion, like in the light of a (well-exposed) photo -- Basile Morin (talk) 15:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can keep your opinion. I'll stick to my position and won't fix alleged errors that aren't actually visible and don't affect the image. Besides, this picture's value lies elsewhere for me (and for Wikipedia). What we actually see in the picture is much more important here - whether it ranks among the best is secondary. In my opinion, Wikipedia isn't Instagram, and I add pictures that have genuine informative value. Janeklass (talk) 03:35, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
🛑Stop it now. "You can keep your opinion" and other derogatory comments written above are against COM:CIVIL. All various and subjective opinions here are welcome and encouraged on this section, per the guidelines at COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". You don't like criticisms, this does not give you permission to be disrespectful to those who don't share your view. You voted above, fine, we all respect your choice, did not contest anything. Do the same, please. Now enough. It's an open project. -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is the author's position not important, or do you always have to agree with criticism? If so, I will try to improve myself in the future and will not engage in further discussion.
For now, this discussion is over for me. Janeklass (talk) 05:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very good. -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aztec Sandstone - Valley of Fire

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Mount Spry and the East Temple

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Hélène Carrère d'Encausse, 2013

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Sri Prasanna Anjaneya Gudi on Hemakuta hill

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Photograph made from B-17 Flying Fortress of the 8th AAF Bomber Command on 31 Dec. when they attacked the vital CAM ball- bearing plant and the nearby Hispano Suiza aircraft engine repair depot in Paris 1943.

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Milky Way during Perseids seen from Oeschinensee with water reflection

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Discussion about file renaming and gallery links
  •  Comment OK. When we rename an image during the nomination we usually rename/move also the nomination subpage according to the new filename, then we must carefully update all links. This is what Radomianin meant with “requires additional maintenance”. I have done this now, but the next time somebody feels the need to rename an image during the FP nomination I ask them politely to do the extra maintenance work, too. ;–) – Aristeas (talk) 20:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you. However IMHO this photo is not about photographic techniques or styles, it is (despite its incredible beauty) still a scientific image showing beta-alanine crystals in polarized light. All similar FPs are listed under Microscopic images of crystals, so this photo should go there too. Hence I have taken the liberty to change the gallery link again. Best, – Aristeas (talk) 09:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kruusamägi and Aristeas, it was "chemist-me" who placed this in the 'Other lifeforms'. I cringed a bit at putting it among the 'Rocks and minerals' since amino acids are organic compounds, the building blocks of life, and not minerals. So far, we have barely no FPs of organic materials (except shells and bones) like amber, pearls, raw oil, natural rubber, etc. so the 'Other lifeforms' was the closest I could find. Perhaps we need a new gallery to store such photos, but we need some photos to start such a gallery. Thoughts? --Cart (talk) 11:43, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looking at the photos in 'Microscopic images of crystals', I see that there are a couple of other images in that section that are dubious too, another of an amino acid and one of a vitamin. None of these are minerals. --Cart (talk) 11:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Exactly, and these microscopic photos of crystals of an amino acid and of a vitamin are the reason why I proposed to use that gallery section; assuming that this section should contain any microscopic photos of crystals. Yes, it does not fit under the main headline of that page – ‘Rocks and minerals’ –, but I fear this is not the only gallery page with such asymmetries. Dear Cart, you know 10.000 times more about all these things than me, but putting an image of the crystals of whatever under ‘Other lifeforms’ seems absurd to stupid people like me – I would never ever find the photo there. Amino acids are organic compounds, but just compounds, a compound is not a lifeform (just as bricks, beams, nails and mortar are no buildings), for images to be sorted under ‘lifeforms’ I would expect them to show either an organism or an organ, i.e. the smallest part of an organism which can be said to be alive. That means that you are absolutely right that we need a new gallery section for microscopic photos of organic materials. It could start with the two existing microscopic FPs of an amino acid and of a vitamin plus this photo here, if/when it gets promoted. And we need cross references between the two sections of microscopic FPs to avoid any further confusion, saying that microscopic images of organic stuff belong to the one, microscopic images of inorganic stuff to the other section. – Aristeas (talk) 14:16, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah Aristeas, I know I was being over the top nerdy in that sorting; as we chemists tend to be. :-D I was going for the NASA definition of searching for life, were they use amino acids as markers for potential life. But we could do this the simplest way and just change the name of the Commons:Featured pictures/Objects/Rocks and minerals gallery to "Commons:Featured pictures/Objects/Rocks, minerals and chemical compounds" (see Chemical compound) to cover just about anything, and add a section for "Organic chemical compounds". Hey presto! Problem solved. I think some might argue that Petrified wood has its origin as organic material and therefore is bridging minerals and organic, so it would fit better under such a description too. --Cart (talk) 14:38, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, Cart, that would be a perfect solution – technically simple, easily understandable even for the laity (like me) but still correct from the point of view of the experts. Thank you, – Aristeas (talk) 14:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just FYI: Cart and me have continued this dicussion, checked several options and finally found that the best solution is to rename the Rocks and minerals gallery page to Geology and chemistry (because it contains almost no rocks, but many photos about geology, of chemical elements and compounds) and to move the few rock photos in the “Others” section to the appropriate places in the Natural Scenes galleries (which already contain many similar images). I will take care for this. Accordingly I have changed the gallery link at the top of this nomination to Commons:Featured pictures/Objects/Geology and chemistry#Organic chemical compounds. Best, – Aristeas (talk) 11:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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View of the Karawanks from Lake Bled, Upper Carniola, Slovenia

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Shell of a Jacna Abalone

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Humpback whale (Megaptera novaeangliae) calf
  • Rent a RIB which can take you to 100 metres distance (no closer) once they have spotted a whale. Then you fin with snorkel towards the animals though the waves with a guide; in my case alongside Louise, an underwater photographer who lent me her camera (in Seacam housing with Superdome) and who gave me instruction on two mornings. It was not easy as I got seasick while in the water. The small size of rental fins (flippers) meant I could not swim very fast either. Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:46, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, the calf is telling me that her Grandma told her that that in 1966, the global population had been reduced to around 5,000 whales and her Mummy told her yesterday that it is now 140,000. 'Thank you very much, little human person'. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Taras Horizon at dawn
  • Thank you for the note, Poco. This is something I noticed when I was making improvements, so I weighed whether a nomination made sense. In the end, I decided to nominate it because, in my opinion, the overall effect outweighs the negative. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 21:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Namdae stream water reflection of colorful clouds from Wolhwagyo bridge in Gangneung South Korea

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Winding road in Jebel Jais, the tallest mountain in the United Arab Emirates

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Cotton carder at work in Kültür, Turkey

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Vineyards at the Scheuerberg in Neckarsulm, Germany, in autumn

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The Amazigh Museum in Azrou, Morocco, and behind it some of the city's mountainous neighborhoods.

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Very classic one: View of the Manhattan Bridge from Washington Street in Brooklyn

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Flower of a Plumbago auriculata
  • ✓ Done. Repairs carried out. Thanks for your reviews.--Famberhorst (talk) 17:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Famberhorst, besides the problems Basile pointed out, which I don't think were fully addressed, there's a couple of other issues: i) the blotchy background (on the 'Retouching' tab, use a single source image to paint over the entire background); ii) the blurry areas below the rightmost petal (run a second stack with method C, go to the 'Retouching' tab, select it in the 'Use another output as a source', and paint over this area) Julesvernex2 (talk) 22:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aerial view of Van Vorst Park, Jersey City

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Stipa, Tarutyns'kyj steppe, Ukraine

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Basilica Cistern, Istanbul, Turkey

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The façade of the Mark Twain elementary school in Neu-Ulm, Germany

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Tower of Trésau, fortified city of Carcassonne, France

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Great Pond and Turkish Bath pavilion, Catherine park, Pushkin town, Saint Petersburg, Russia

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Newport Beach Pier

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Harvesting at Mount Barton, Devon, England, 1942. Land Girls Joan Day, her sister Ivy, and Iris Andrews help a farmer to transfer stooks of harvested oats into a truck in the sunshine on Hollow Moor, Devon.

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Orca during a show at Loro Parque in Tenerife

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Chancel in the Saint Gerald abbey church of Aurillac, Cantal, France

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Your rainbow panorama installation by Ólafur Eliasson at the ARoS Art Museum, Aarhus, Denmark
  •  Comment Yann, Cmao20 - I welcome your opinions but as listed above, the FP resolution requirement is a minimum of 2 MB (and even less with strong mitigating circumstances). If you want to change FP criteria, that argument goes to a different forum. If you judge this image on its own (taken in 2011 when this rainbow panorama was created) and work through the FP critera at the top of the page, I think you will find it meets all, particularly the last one - value in illustrating the intended, interactive use of an architectural work of art by a significant modern artist. IMHO, it has a little wow too. --GRDN711 (talk) 06:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many images which would pass in 2011, but not today. We had 10 millions files, and we have now more than 110 M. Sorry, but we can't get back in time. Yann (talk) 09:01, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, the lower limit is 2 megapixels, but in practice, photos of an easily reproducible subject should be much larger. I would not vote for a picture this size unless either it was a technically difficult photograph or it was very difficult or impossible to replace. And it isn't even that sharp even at this small size. Cmao20 (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chicago and North Western Railway locomotive shops, Chicago, Ill.

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Result: 11 delist, 0 keep, 0 neutral → delisted. /-- Radomianin (talk) 22:01, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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U.S. soldier looks into washroom mirror with sign around it reading "IF YOU TALK TOO MUCH THIS MAN MAY DIE!"

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Greater flamingos courtship display in the Camargue during mating season

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Bigorski Monastery, Macedonia

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Eyershausen, Jesus sculpture with cross

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Golden Cup with a frieze of gazelles, ca. early 1st millennium BCE. Excavated at Marlik, a site southwest of the Caspian Sea in northern Iran.
@Basile Morin can crop? --Gnosis (talk) 21:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggested crop added (see image note), but only 2700 x 2100 pixels will be too small in my opinion -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Basile for your recommendation, I ended up cropping the image and is now over 8 million pixels (4 times more than the minimum requirement). Hope this would satisfy other voters. --Gnosis (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kødbyen by night, Copenhagen.

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Red Arrows fyling the “Tornado” manoeuvre

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A water flea of genus Daphnia photographed under a microscope using an 8x objective

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Madrid covered with snow during storm Filomena (January 2021)

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The Mercury Seven on 17 March 1960, Front row, left to right: Walter M. Schirra, Jr., Donald K. "Deke" Slayton, John H. Glenn, Jr., and M. Scott Carpenter; back row, Alan B. Shepard, Jr., Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom, and L. Gordon Cooper, Jr.


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Freddie Mercury in New Haven, CT at a WPLR Show.


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A family portrait of the Mozart's by Johann Nepomuk della Croce made around 1780 showing Wolfgang Amadeus, his sister Maria Anna, and his father Leopold Mozart


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The Beatles arriving at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City
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Boathouses at the Königssee in Schönau am Königssee in Berchtesgadener Land, Germany

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White tern (Gygis alba candida)
  • ✓ Done Yes @Tupungato: , I have increased brightness. Charlesjsharp (talk) 13:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would make it even brighter. I looked at the whole thing again and noticed more issues. I added four notes to the image: 2 dust spots, white "ghost" artefacting below the bill/head, and strange patterns in the sky. I especially see the strange patterns in the sky, when trying to brighten the photo to see how it looks. I don't know what's going on there. Was there some serious Clone Brushing / Clone Stamping editing there? Sorry for being so picky. I'm a fellow birdwatcher and it's a better photo than I have ever taken of any moving bird, but still I feel it needs to be slightly better. Tupungato (talk) 12:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Interior of Great Kiva, Aztec Ruins National Monument

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High-speed photography - Friction of a match

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Coneflower (Rudbeckia) with hoarfrost
🎂  :-) Basile Morin (talk) 02:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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FIS Nordic World Ski Championships Seefeld 2019 - Ladies Cross Country 10km. Yulia Belorukova (RUS).

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Astronaut Max Suraev after 5-month ISS mission, recovered after Soyuz TMA-13M capsule landing

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Tadej Pogačar, cyclist on 2022 Tour of Slovenia

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Humpback whale (Megaptera novaeangliae) with calf

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Telescope RC600 of the Caucasian mountain observatory SAI Moscow State University

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 Support IrksomeBuccaneer2635 (talk) 21:00, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+ Question to the native English speakers: what does "Alternate route up Pen y Fan What 3 words failed.driveway.informed" mean, in the description? -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The green flair looks like sunlight from the right to me.--Famberhorst (talk) 05:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A green flare with this definition (#5) in my view. A section with green branches instead of gray all around -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I agree with Basile that the lens flare is a technical fault. Personally it doesn't bother me too much so I will leave this nomination open until further votes/opinions. However, I am from the UK so perhaps I am a bit biased/overly sensitive to the mood in this photo. Cmao20 (talk) 12:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The composition is excellent. Just the technical flaws bother me (green spot, narrow depth of field with blurred foreground, and lack of sharpness at the left). Maybe also too much clarity -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To answer the What3words question: It's a type of geolocation, see failed.driveway.informed. — Julian H. 11:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok, then it makes sense, some way. Thanks! -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I turned it into normal coordinates since that seems more useful. — Julian H. 16:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Tomer T (talk) 10:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 15:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support For me, the wonderful mood of the picture outweighs the technical error, so I am personally willing to tolerate it. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support moody scene! The green spot is a bummer, though. --SHB2000 (talk) 03:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Paracel63 (talk) 05:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support Light and atmosphere are wonderful, and IMHO the flares are not very irritating. (There is also a restrained red flare at the left. However the unequal distribution of sharpness seems a bit astonishing, I can’t explain this at ƒ/7.1 and an 18 mm lens on an APS-C sensor. It’s OK that the foreground is out of focus, but only the cottage and a relatively small part of the wall at the right are really sharp, while the trees at the left and right are already a bit soft … maybe a bad [copy of the] lens?)Aristeas (talk) 18:39, 16 December 2024 (UTC)  Oppose I am very sorry because I 100% agree that this is a very beautiful photo with great composition, light and atmosphere. But now, only at the 3rd glance, I see that there is something like a “cutting line” near the right border (see image note), showing that this photo is a montage – that would be fine, but the line is so coarse that the montage was done inadequately. E.g. it seems that the rightmost sheep was just duplicated (it appears two times there), and the same is true for a fence post, some branches, etc. This spoils the image for me, sorry. – Aristeas (talk) 18:46, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination Well noticed. Yes, it's unfortunately a little clumsily done and I think that stops it from being FP. Let's try something else. Cmao20 (talk) 18:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tourist (centre) trekking by the southern side of the Perito Moreno Glacier in Argentina
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J Class Yachts Velsheda, Topaz and Svea downwind leg

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Saint Cecil Cathedral in Albi, France.

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Aztec Sandstone
In what way are they very similar? Different outcrop, the locations are a few km apart, which is evident from the geotags. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 20:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Info There might be a mistake in the date, supposed to be the same as in the metadata exif ("1 March 2012" vs "20 February 2012"). Note that Sahara desert also looks similar on long distances. Those two picture of rocks look pretty identical on several aspects: subject, sky, light. But the other one is better. The patterns are not spectacular here, in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Date corrected, was a mistake indeed. Regarding the rock appearance, one could also say that all the paddies look similar 🤷‍♂️ --The Cosmonaut (talk) 03:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We could. You can. The important thing is to create diverse images, sometimes even with the same subjects. Thanks for the correction -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Castle of Najac, Aveyron, France

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Chesme column in Catherine park of Tsarskoe Selo, Saint Petersburg, Russia

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Madygen nature monument. Batken District, Batken Region, Kyrgyzstan.

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View of Karynzharyk valley. Ustyurt nature reserve, Karakiya District, Mangystau Region, Kazakhstan

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Dusk autumn scenery near castle in Pidhirtsi, Ukraine.
The problem with drone pictures taken in low light is that they are not stabilized like a tripod. It's possible that this lack of quality impacted the result when enhancing the colors afterwards in post-treatment -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:45, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed.

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Bell tower of the Saint Nicholas church in Eupen, province of Liège, Belgium

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Pfunds Molkerei - the ‘most beautiful dairy shop in the world’, Dresden
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: Bad quality, not even a quality picture. Yann (talk) 10:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
  •  Comment When I took the photo (2012) photography inside the store was prohibited. I photographed from the street through the glass. One interference - blurring people to prevent identification. Please specify what is of bad quality Jerzystrzelecki (talk) 15:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A candleholder on a rock in Šlegovo Monastery

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Laguna Canyon

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Ardea cinerea - Grey heron - in a pond of Busan Citizens Park with blue sky in Busan city South Korea
  • Thank you very much, SHB2000, for your feedback. The background is not spectacular but I find the contrast between natural environment and skyscrapers uncommon compared to what we usually see here. The fact that the park is populated by large birds in total freedom is a local specificity that I find astonishing. As for sharpness, I did my best to optimize it according to the scene including a living being, but perhaps F/13 instead of F/11 would have increased the depth of field. The weather was beautiful that day, and it's a photo I like because it combines two contradictory ideas: nature and urbanization. Like a balance between the two. Landscape connected to megacity, or urbanization with a breath of fresh air in its heart -- Basile Morin (talk) 09:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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American actress Clara Bow

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Church of Our Lady (Bruges)

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Southern side of Woljeonggyo Bridge illuminated at sunset in Gyeongju South Korea

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Kiddish like lion statue
Well, it's rather dark. You may like it like this, but the shadows are very dominant in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Umber skipper in San Jose, California

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An aerial view of the village of Gorno Kosovrasti

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Blacktip reef shark (Carcharhinus melanopterus)
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The Virgin awakening Child Christ, by Juan Sánchez Cotán

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View of the fields from Julio Andrade, Carchi Province, Ecuador
Llez: ✓ Done Poco a poco (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Cosmonaut: ✓ Done (this time the crop) Poco a poco (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment @Lvova, Tupungato, Llez, and Cmao20: IMHO it would be nice to ping the previous voters because this is a considerable change in the composition. No offence, just wanting to help, – Aristeas (talk) 20:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment It's still good. Tupungato (talk) 20:38, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I much preferred the composition before :( Cmao20 (talk) 00:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Green sea turtle (Chelonia mydas)

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The Virgin and Child, by Antonello da Messina (1430–1479)

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The former school building in the village of Čumovo

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Daereungwon Ancient Tomb Complex, Gyeongju

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Down view of a gymnosperm tree showing the log and the leafs at the top.

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World Trade Center towers, New York, 2 months before the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks
  • The original also has vignetting. I embedded an RGB profile in the existing restoration, which resulted in the thumbnail and full size corresponding; I cannot speak to the source of the blue tint.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This was restored by 2 editors, and 2 years apart. I don't think I will put more time to improve this image. I don't disagree with the comments above and below. I have uploaded a copy of the restored image in PNG format at This link. Please feel free to improve it as you see fit, and please upload your edited versions as a separate file, thanks. Bammesk (talk) 01:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 I withdraw my nomination I don't think this is going to pass. Thanks for the comments. Yann (talk) 11:35, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cover art from the 2018 video game Celeste.

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  • You may consider it's important for you to enjoy your own pictures (and so much the better!), but it's not important for the collective evaluation. The goal is not to award the FP label to all photographers who like so much their own photos, otherwise we would promote the worst works that have exceptional sentimental value. The goal is to promote the photos that consensually satisfy a majority -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understandable - not all photos have to get FP. Honestly, nothing will happen to me in life if the picture doesn't get FP :)
I've been following this thing here for a while now and sometimes I don't understand what these assessments are based on. Emotion?
In the case of a microscope photo, I still recommend looking for reference material to understand what level these photos are in the world. It's a very complex genre and some photos that seem bad to the viewer can turn out to be quite good if you compare the tests with similar photos :D Janeklass (talk) 03:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Northern lights over Mývatn (Iceland)
@Giles Laurent: You have cleaned up the technical denoising issue and it is now a quality image. I would certainly be happy if it were mine. However, IMHO, it still doesn't have the wow of others in the FP gallery. Now that you are intrigued by the aurora borealis, this might prompt travel back to Iceland's Ring Road, Northern Canada or Norway to look for more. The aurora appears like mysterious magic across the sky. --GRDN711 (talk) 01:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Taking a picture of the aurora is not something that you do by simply going to a place and taking a picture. You need the right conditions which you have no power at. The aurora don't happen constantly and you need one to be happening. You also need good weather, which is something extremely rare in Iceland. I spent 2 weeks in the winter period there and there was 100% cloud coverage 98% of the time. And with clouds in front of it, there's nothing to be seen. That night was the only night that I got to see an aurora. I also know a few people that went in search of auroras in other countries like Canada or Norway and that ended up seeing nothing. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 08:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Loading of iron ore at Kiruna mine.
 Support IrksomeBuccaneer2635 (talk) 20:57, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Kaaba during Hajj
And  not "created" by Aliphotography. -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Terragio67, SHB2000 2804:1B3:9700:3654:581C:C75E:C6F:7614 13:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear IP, please log in or create an account to be allowed to send notifications -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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 Comment I striked the vote by ArionStar's sock. Yann (talk) 19:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delisted an replaced by File:The Kaaba during Hajj - edited.jpg 2025-01-12 (12-0) per Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/File:The Kaaba during Hajj (edited).jpg -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)}}[reply]

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 Comment I striked the vote by ArionStar's sock. Yann (talk) 19:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sophia Loren by Allan Warren

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View from the Garden Theatre to the Temple of Apollo in Schwetzingen Palace gardens

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Granite boulder formations near the Monsanto Castle at sunrise, Aldeia de Monsanto, Portugal
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  •  Comment Thank you for the nomination, Aristeas! I’m afraid though I fumbled the description and filename, as this image was taken at sunrise, not sunset… I assume it’s easier to change the filename after the nomination runs its course? It was a beautiful but very cold morning, I remember having to hike down the hill holding the camera and tripod, as my hands were too stiff too unzip the backpack :) —Julesvernex2 (talk) 17:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment Such things just happen … Thank you for the correction, Julesvernex2! Yes, normally it’s easier to change the filename later, but to avoid any possible further confusion I have taken the liberty to rename both your image and this nomination right now (I hope I got all links right, too). – Aristeas (talk) 17:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Awesome, thank you very much! Julesvernex2 (talk) 18:00, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The dome of St. Paraskeva Church in the village of Novo Lagovo

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A view of Lone Mountain during a sunset, seen from the Big Sky Resort in Montana

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Meander. View from Vadvevaras in Vadvetjåkka National Park, Sweden.
  • Zquid, for me the issues with this one are the lack of detail at full size - look at how 'smudgy' the fine detail looks at pixel level when you compare e.g. this where you can see even the individual cracks in the ice really clearly - plus the big area of overexposed ('blown') highlights in the cloud on the top right. I also think the contrast has been turned up too high so the mix of light and shadow does not look natural. Cmao20 (talk) 12:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The overall composition and view is quite good. But a problem lies within either camera settings, and/or editing. The sky and some areas of the river are too bright (overexposed highlights). Some areas of forest are a little too dark. There is also certain overall "radiance", some magic softness, a little like 1980s romance movies filters. Also, the zoomed in quality for some reason is atrocious, which shouldn't be an issue for Canon 6D. If I was to guess, some sort of strong HDR filter was used in post processing. Tupungato (talk) 22:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Road in north-western Mongolia near Russian border

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Original color transparency of FDR taken at 1944 Official Campaign Portrait session by Leon A. Perskie, Hyde Park, New York, August 22, 1944. Gift of Beatrice Perskie Foxman and Dr. Stanley B. Foxman.

* Comment Wcamp9, redirecting the file link to the uncropped version seems to have broken the nomination. I believe the right way to do this is to offer the uncropped version as an Alternative. --Julesvernex2 (talk) 18:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link is restored. The uncropped version can still be added to this nomination as an Alternative. I've taken the liberty to do so since Wcamp9 is new to FPC and doesn't know how the nom system works (you can't go about changing the code in the nom, unless you know exactly what you're doing). Please revert if you don't like it. --Cart (talk) 19:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In all the skies, Air France

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Amphitheatre (Alba Fucens)

  1. Because I believe we should not offer this "honor" to a user who escapes their ban. The image should not become a POTD, nor decorate our galleries, and it's better if re-uses are limited.
  2. Like GRDN711 on the original nomination I agree the picture has a rather low wow factor. During the discussion on the FPC talk page, I was wondering if this photo had a chance to become a POTY finalist, and honestly believe not, because of the harsh light and strong shadows. Of course my subjective guess can be wrong, but in that case, it is another reason to delist, because the photo uploaded by a supposedly blocked user should definitely not enter the "Picture of the Year" competition to get such a reward.
Sorry for all those who liked this picture, and especially Cmao20 the impeccable nominator who suggested this photo in good faith and now finds himself a bit tarnished by the scandal. It's just bad luck.
Thanks, Radomianin, for the initiative -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do feel like 'it's not a good enough photo to be FP' is probably not a fair reason to delist in this case, honestly. We should focus our discussion entirely on whether the photo should remain FP seeing it was taken by a banned sockpuppet user. The picture was only promoted a month ago and people had ample opportunity to vote on its quality at that time. Cmao20 (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dear Cmao20, you're right and I completely understand your instasfaction to hear today negative opinions being expressed when they had previously kept quiet. However, you can also understand 2 things, in this new situation: 1) all the previously tangential opinions no longer hesitate to express their reservations (this is my case personally, who had not supported) and similarly some who had supported may simply abstain this second time (if they don't oppose), 2) there is sometimes a form of natural lottery in a panel of daily voters on FPC. It is not always the same ones who vote, and the score can change depending on the arguments and influences. Look at the FPs renominated last time, some scores turned out to be very different. Example 17 may 2021 : score 7-3, then 13 January 2022 : score 13-1. How do you explain that? Or even more: score 7-4 then score 11-0. So there is a bit of random. Best regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, I agree. The process is invariably a bit random and that’s unavoidable. And it’s not necessarily even a bad thing - it may result in some pictures failing that should probably have passed, and some passing that should have failed, but it averages out to the process generally working very well, and I do think we generally get a high standard of photos passing. I just think this delist request should be focussed on the matter of whether it’s appropriate to feature a photo uploaded by a sockpuppet. Wolverine XI had the opportunity to speak up as to the photo’s quality when it was initially nominated, and he didn’t. If we start re-evaluating the quality of images only a month after they were passed, I fear that the FP galleries would forever be in flux. Anyway, I think I’ll leave it here as I don’t feel inclined to defend Livio’s photos any longer. Cmao20 (talk) 04:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps "not on par" has no relation with "quality"? "Not on par with the rest of the FPs" possibly means that the rest of the FPs were uploaded by authorized users? Or because the rest of the FPs will be fair POTY candidates, legitimate POTD, etc.?
  •  Delist per nom.--Peulle (talk) 08:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral Now this is a real dilemma. One the one hand I fully agree with Radomianin, Basile, et all. that we should not promote any further photos by Livioandronico2013/Paris Orlando/Σπάρτακος/Architas/Commonists/NikonZ7II/Merulana/PaestumPaestum/etc. etc. etc., according to the results of the discussion after the Commonists unmasking in 2021. On the other hand Cmao20 is absolutely right that this photo is kind of a special case, as it was neither nominated by Livio themselves nor did Livio even vote on it. IMHO we should not delist the image for quality/aesthetical reasons because these aspects have been fairly discussed in the original nomination just a month ago. Anybody can always open a regular ‘delist’ nomination, but normally this should be done only (a) for procedural/rule-related reasons – like here –, (b) when one discovers major flaws in a FP which were not mentioned in the original nomination discussion, or (c) after a fairly long period when our technical requirements have changed significantly. Delisting recently promoted FPs ‘on the fly’ would open a can of worms with arbitray ‘But I did not like that FP’ discussions and block FPC. But of course I am fine with a procedural demoting if the majority resolves to do so. In any case many thanks to A.Savin, Basile, Cmao20, Radomianin and all other participants for their commitment to settle this unpleasant affair! – Aristeas (talk) 10:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I am sorry to have caused such an intense discussion with this nomination. Perhaps I should have waited a little longer until there were other suggestions on the FPC discussion page. I am also sorry that a recently successfully promoted photo is now the reason for a delisting. The Livioandronico2013 scandal happened long before I was active on Commons, but I noticed the Commonists affair and took the opportunity to read through all the discussion pages about how Livioandronico2013 got banned. Until then, I didn't even know what a sock puppet was. Since we all work in this forum with good and faithful intentions, I personally think it is very important not to give room to proven or obvious frauds. This affects not only the relationships between contributors, but also the policies of the Wikimedia Foundation. While such removals are unpleasant for everyone involved, they must be done. I would also like to echo Cmao20's and Aristeas' thoughts that the reason for this delisting nomination is entirely due to sockpuppet abuse. It has nothing to do with technical, compositional, or any other aspect of the photo in question. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 14:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delist Sockpuppet saga aside, this is not even a QI to me. --SHB2000 (talk) 07:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why? I am happy to see this picture be delisted but I’m genuinely surprised how much criticism of the technical aspects has taken place. Surely the bar for QI is sharp, well composed, and illustrates the subject clearly, I don’t see how it can fall short. As I say, fully happy to see it go, but it just surprises me how many people seem to think that nominating this in the first place was some egregious misstep on my part. Cmao20 (talk) 12:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 8 delist, 1 keep, 1 neutral → delisted. /-- Basile Morin (talk) 04:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I won’t quibble with the rest, as although the composition is very satisfying to me this is definitely a fair critique, but I can’t personally see any issues with sharpness. The image seems very sharp to me. Cmao20 (talk) 02:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cmao20: Interestingly, I just viewed the photo on my phone rather than my laptop and it looks like a completely different image; sharper lines, more saturated colours in the sky and warmer tones on the sand/rocks (maybe something up with the colour space?). Anyway, happy to strike out the comment about sharpness. BigDom (talk) 14:44, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Golden Horn, Istanbul, Turkey
  • What a phenomenon :-) Sorry, in the darkness I did not distinguish the fishing rods above, at first sight. And since it's a long exposure, the aspect of these lines looks a bit special, like a kind of stitching issue. Thanks for the notification -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pink whipray (Pateobatis fai)

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Portrait of a red fox in Rautas fjällurskog nature reserve, Sweden.

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2011 Peugeot 908 LMP1 car
  • +1 Great panning effect, but the tilt gives the impression the car is going up a hill. I will support this nomination if it is fixed. As the camera sensor is capable of more pixels, I assume the picture was cropped on both sizes? -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I genuinely don't know how accurate the tilt is, Donington park is reasonably hilly there but I think it's probably at least exaggerated. I personally like it to make it feel dynamic, but it might not be preferable for encyclopedic purposes. Because, as you say, I have plenty of space to straighten it in the crop, so I will add a straight version as an alternative. — Julian H. 07:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2011 Peugeot 908 LMP1 car

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Saint Maurice church in Saint-Maurice, Nièvre, France

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Old Bathtubs, Chemin de la Patinoire, Caux, Canton of Vaud, Switzerland

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A woman in Egypt is inside her house practicing her rituals of worship during the month of Ramadan.
  • Also to note, I would oppose a portrait version. The negative space makes this picture far more interesting. A portrait version would just be a snapshot, this is an artwork. Cmao20 (talk) 23:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Basile Morin (talk · contribs) I don't know the photographer and don't know why not a more descriptive title. Can we change it? The text in captions - "سيده داخل منزلها تمارس طقوس عبادتها خلال شهر رمضان الذى يعد له خصوصيه بشكل لدى الكتثر من الافارقه المسلمين" - Google translate says it means "A woman is inside her house practicing her rituals of worship during the month of Ramadan, which is considered special in a way for many African Muslims.". I suppose "a woman" doesn't says so much, but I think "house" in title is about taken in a house, a home. Description says "This is an image with the theme "Home + Habitat in Africa" from: Egypt". But you may be right, "house" can be the mosque. I don't know. // Zquid (talk) 09:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not saying "house is the mosque". Just I think it's very broad (and inaccurate according to the content). The file name can be changed after promotion. Description in English should be improved, and caption in English could be translated / added -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carriers of the New Black Plague, 1938. Provocative satirical pictorial map, addressing the varying levels of control of free speech exercised around the world, drawn by William Henry Cotton.

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Quinault Rain Forest, Quinault, Washington

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Water drops on glass in the sun
Thank you (⧼Anna Massini alias PROPOLI87⧽) (talk) 14:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination Yann (talk) 15:05, 26 December 2024 (UTC) [reply]

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Totally agree. This particular site has been a bit off limits lately with heavy military presence, but hopefully it will be possible to get good pictures of it in the future. --Argenberg (talk) 20:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak oppose Is this a useful photo? Yes. Is this a "wow" photo? Meh. Smallish resolution, probably a little tilted to the left. It is a material for Valued Image probably, but not FP.--Tupungato (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hydrangea macrophylla in front of Seongsan Ilchulbong volcano at blue hour in Jeju Island South Korea
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Seoul, 1929

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Cairo under sand storm

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Holi festival in Bangladesh

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Graslei, Clock tower of the Post Office, Church of Saint-Nicolas in Ghent and Belfry of Ghent

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The Sinulog Festival Queen and Santo Niño, 2024 in the Philippines.
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Margaret Hamilton

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Ambigram Motel Water

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Red-necked grebe (Podiceps grisegena grisegena) breeding adult

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St. Nicholas Church of the Mariovo Monastery

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Innere (left) and Äußere (right) Wetterspitze in the Stubai Alps. Bottom right is the Bremer Hut

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Panorama Encontro das Águas

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Morning view above Avala, Belgrade

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Stained glass window "Birth of Jesus Christ", Chapel St-Joseph du Mont Pèlerin, Chardonne, Canton of Vaud, Switzerland
  • Thank you for the explanation, Llez. I am not sure this is an approach I agree with, but equally, it helps me appreciate that the colours and contrast in this picture are accurate, so I am more comfortable about supporting it. Cmao20 (talk) 12:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I carefully checked the histogram and (honestly) the excessive contrast I had detected is not as significant as I thought. Instead what probably influenced my opinion was the too deep and dark black color on the edges. But let me say that it is a personal impression and that I like very much the photo as depicted in terms of clarity and texture. Terragio67 (talk) 18:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Image was nominated by a banned sockpuppet user. Actions have consequences, Arion. If someone else thinks the image should be FP they should nominate it as a fresh vote. Cmao20 (talk) 20:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure 💤 -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Amazon Theatre (Manaus, Brazil) (edited)
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Elephant Stables at Hampi

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North Shore Mountains above Vancouver
✓ Done: perspective corrected. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 00:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Spodek, Katowice

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Pine Valley Mountains above St. George